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KARUNA TALK RESOURCES
The Very
Venerable Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche
Transcript of audience for people with chronic illness or
disabilities
and their caregivers
Translated by Sarah Harding
Boulder, Colorado
14 July 2004
Thrangu
Rinpoche: Do
you have any questions?
Rob
Graffis: I
asked that this group be put together
because many of us are living with sickness and possibility of death as
opposed
to contemplating it, so it is far more of a reality for a lot of us in
this
room. I mean it’s far more scarier than
just contemplating it. So I thought it
would be a good idea to bring people together and to be able to do what
we are
doing.
Thrangu
Rinpoche: So,
in general, among us, among people who
are living with some kind of illness or disease, there’s a good chance
that
many will get better, slowly recover from that illness, or not. But, in any case, among everybody, whether
they are sick or not sick – everybody is dying. There
is not anybody who is not dying. So, in a
way, all of us are in the same situation. But
what is it that helps that
situation? What it is that can address
the fact that we are mortal and that we are dying is the practice of
Dharma. And in that it is very, very
important practicing Dharma. And in
terms of practicing Dharma, since that is the thing that helps the
situation,
that is the one thing that you can rely on to benefit the situation,
then if
you can apply yourself with a lot of discipline, that’s very good. But if you can’t, that’s okay, too. What just matters is that you practice
whatever you can comfortably and that whatever practice it is – whether
it’s
shamatha, or vipashyana, or deity practice, or mantra, or cultivating
loving
kindness and compassion, or doing mind training, lojong practice. The main thing is that whatever you can
comfortably do, that you do it on a daily basis without forgetting
about
it. You don’t let it go totally, but
just keep it at a constant. And realize
that just having the Dharma the way you do, it’s very, very fortunate
and very
lucky. Many people are sick and many
people die with no recourse to the Dharma at all, never having even
heard
it. And then some people have heard a
little bit about it or something, but really haven’t been fully exposed
to
practice. But for the most part, you’ve
really had this opportunity to practice and enter the door of Dharma
and put it
into the practice. And so, whatever
occurs, getting better or not, you’ve got this incredibly fortunate
situation –
very, very lucky, fortunate situation.
Furthermore,
that with sicknesses, usually (there is) suffering of one kind and
another that
specifically comes with it. But
although we might be in pain and have suffering, we know how to
befriend these
adverse conditions. We know how to turn
those into our allies, into our support, because they can inspire us
with
renunciation. Suffering is a great
inspiration of renunciation to attachment. It
can inspire faith and devotion and motivation. And,
on the other hand, some people that are
very healthy and happy and young, and live for the day, they ultimately
are
poor, ultimately are bereft of help when they need it, if that’s the
state that
they stay in. So, in that case you can
also regard the situation as supportive.
So, that
way then, as much as possible, if you can integrate on the path or
carry on the
path your own sicknesses and pain and trouble, and make it into the
practice of
Dharma, and practice as much as possible, (this) will, down the road,
be of
ultimate, great benefit.
I was
diagnosed with cancer a while back by one doctor. And
I found it was of great benefit for my mind. My
mind had a very good reaction – faith,
diligence, and so forth. But then, that
doctor said that I didn’t have cancer, and now my mind just gets worse
and
worse. (laughter)
Question: I have a question. I
would think
about it in terms of Karma Family – the poison of the Karma Family,
which is
fear, paranoia that arises when pain arises. What’s
the sense of transmutation from the
All-Accomplishing Action,
enlightened quality, when the paranoia or fear arises in relationship
to pain
arising?
Thrangu
Rinpoche: So,
the way to make fear of suffering into
the wisdom of what I call, “All-Accomplished Wisdom,” or sometimes is
called,
“All-Accomplishing Wisdom,” is that by having that fear and recognizing
that
you have the fear and the suffering, you understand that like you, many
people
have it. Everybody has it.
Everybody has fear of suffering and
everybody experiences suffering. And so
you develop compassion and loving-kindness and a beneficial mind for
the
welfare of others, because you have empathy for their situation. You know that they’re suffering.
You know there’s fear. In
the same way you have it, everyone does. And
then, also, faith in the Buddha,
bodhisattvas, in enlightenment and everything arises.
And so, basically, that is accomplishing. You are accomplishing the purpose of Dharma,
which is the All-Accomplishing Wisdom. And
if you’re just sitting around happy, not doing
anything, no
suffering, don’t even know about suffering, don’t understand that
sentient
beings have suffering, then you are not accomplishing anything. So, the transformation takes place by
recognizing that the situation you have applies to all beings, and then
developing the qualities from that knowledge. That’s
the All-Accomplishing Wisdom or the
All-Accomplished Wisdom.
So, that’s
why it’s explained that the contemplation of impermanence, which is so
important in Buddhism, to contemplate impermanence, it’s said to be, at
the
beginning, the inspiration to enter the path. In
the beginning, we are not thinking about Dharma
or spiritual
anything, but because we notice that there’s impermanence, there’s
mortality,
everything’s changing, by recognizing that, in all situations, that’s
the very
thing that got us into Dharma. That’s
the very thing that brings us all to the path in the first place. Then, once we are on the path, impermanence
is called the inspiration for diligence, the inspiration for
perseverance on
the path, which is to remember that there is limited time and that
situations
change. That’s what gets you to really
practice and that’s what gets you to exert yourself on the path. And finally, in the end, impermanence is the
inspiration for the result to take place – whatever the result is. The best-case scenario, of course, (is)
total enlightenment, but even if not that, you think, “I’ve done what I
could. I have a sense that there is an
accomplishment of what I could do has been done, even if it isn’t the
ultimate
result.” So, impermanence and the
contemplation of impermanence in the beginning, in the middle and in
the end is
the inspiration.
Question: Just to carry that
a little further, what I have
been working with
lately is that I still find through this experience that I’m separating
self
and other, that I’m not seeing that as illusory. And
I keep getting to a point where I can deal with my own
mortality pretty well, but my attachments to those I love, and the
thought of
those – that seems very solid, sometimes. For
instance, my parents are very old and I always
assumed that I would
help them through their dying process. It
may go the other way around, at this point. So
I just would love to hear some more advice
in terms of working
with not, you know – knowing it and realizing it and stabilizing it are
all
different. And I know it and I have
great devotion in my teachers so I feel sort of okay for myself, but
it’s
harder (indistinct).
Thrangu
Rinpoche: So, you know, of course, that’s the way of the
world or the abiding nature of samsara, to be more technical. But, one can also apply your practice to
thinking, making aspiration prayers for those that you are concerned
about,
cultivating a good mind, good attitude towards them, remembering that
having
regret about them isn’t going to help – that worry and that regret and
remorse
is not going to be helpful for them. And
then doing as much practice and meditation and
using the situation
as an inspiration for practice, for the benefit of others; even if you
are not
going to actually be there, you can still benefit your parents’
situation now.
Question: For someone that’s a caregiver – I’m living
with my husband who’s ill – one thing that I feel challenged by is
keeping my
heart open, not closing off or pulling away. How
to keep your heart open at the same time not
become absorbed in the
pain? It’s sort of like finding this
balance of not closing down but not, you know…
(Translator: Well,
I’m not very confident that I translated
that very well, because those words don’t really work that way, but…)
Thrangu
Rinpoche: In taking care of another who is sick, then
compassion is important, to remember that they’re sick, and that
whatever
actions they do aren’t those of a well person. So
in a sense, they don’t have the same
accountability, let’s say, as
much as a well person does. And so
whatever
occurs, you remember that and you cultivate compassion and empathy for
that
person. And that helps you.
That should also help your own benefit for
you and virtuous accumulation for yourself as well as, obviously,
helping the
other person.
Same questioner:
And how to do that without becoming absorbed in the
pain? Because a lot of times I open my
heart, but
then I’ll feel like I’ve taken something on. It’s
like finding that balance.
Thrangu
Rinpoche: Aspiration prayers would help. Aspiration
prayers for all sentient beings,
that all sentient beings have sufferings, as does your husband, and may
they
all not have that suffering. Making
that aspiration for all beings to not have that suffering actually is
very
beneficial.
Translator: One more question?
Question: Intellectually, I understand that difficult
situations are really opportunities – they’re really a blessing. In reality, my lack of patience and skilful
means fall short of that intellectual understanding.
Thrangu
Rinpoche: Again,
it’s so important to do the
aspiration, in your intention and motivation. Yes,
you can understand this is the nature of
samsara, everybody
suffers, but still you can wish that it weren’t so.
You could really pray for that not to be the case,
for beings not
to suffer, and cultivate a noble (translator's words indistinct) of a
good mind of helping
others. That’s really beneficial –
beneficial for you, beneficial for others.
Translator: So, Rinpoche wants to give you protection
cords.
© Thrangu
Rinpoche 2004
For more information on Thrangu Rinpoche, please contact:
Vajra Vidya Retreat Center
P. O. Box 1083
Crestone, CO 81131
http://www.rinpoche.com/
Transcribed by
Alan Sloan, 25 September
2004. This transcript has been lightly
edited.
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